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First, review the questions below. And then if they don't help, you can submit a Support Ticket to us.Category: Strange Plays| # | Question |
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| 1. | Why didn't I get points for an offensive player like a QB, RB or WR recovering a fumble from one of his teammates (or, his own fumble) in the end zone for a touchdown?
Answer: On Sunday of Week 11, the Bucs scored a TD when Jameis Winston fumbled the ball, and then Mike Evans recovered it in the end zone.
This TD by Evans is considered to be an "Offensive Fumble Recovery TD" for the player. So you'll have to add that rule to your scoring on the Reports > Rules > League Scoring screen as needed if you want this to count for your league.
You can use either of these rules:
"Number of Offensive Fumble Recovery TDs"
or
"Length of Offensive Fumble Recovery TD".
Also, since 0 yard offensive fumble recoveries can happen when a player falls on the ball in the end zone, be sure to make the scoring for this start at zero yards, and go all the way up to 100 yards.
After you make the change to your rules, the system will put a confirmation message on your league home page, and that will allow you to choose whether or not to apply the new rule changes to all weeks or just future weeks. (Note - this same type of play happened in Week 10 for the Bills when Jason Croom fell on it in the end zone for a TD. You can view all of these types of unusual plays on the "Help > Strange Plays" menu item in your league.
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| 2. | A player scored a touchdown on a fumble recovery on a kickoff/punt return - how do I set up my league scoring system to give points for that?
Answer: This is recorded as a "Fumble Recovery TD" by the NFL, so you would have to add the "Number of Defensive Fumble Recovery TDs" scoring rule to your league for the WR position if you want this to be automatically scored for this individual player.
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| 3. | Why is a player being penalized for his fumble on a punt or kickoff return? Fumbles should only apply to individual players when they're on offense.
Answer: If your league uses the general "Fumbles" or the "Fumbles Lost (to Opponent)" rule in your scoring system for individual players, then it will include all fumbles by the player, no matter how or when they occurred. So in this case, even though the fumble happened on a punt or kickoff return, which many leagues consider to be a "special teams" play, it is still counted in the total for "Fumbles Lost" for the individual player.
If you don't want to count these fumbles that happen on non-offensive plays, then you should use the rule for "Fumbles on Offense" or "Fumbles Lost on Offense" instead. Please note that there have been quite a few fumbles on punt and kickoff returns that happen each week of the NFL season, so if you change this rule part way through the season, and you choose to apply it to the previous weeks, then it could change the scores for some players for prior weeks, too.
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| 4. | How does MyFantasyLeague.com score special/strange plays?
Answer: From time to time the NFL games produce a unique play. That is, a play that doesn’t easily or directly transfer from the professional game to the fantasy game. For most of these occurrences MyFantasyLeague.com offers our Strange Plays site news. However, to see how MyFantasyLeague.com scores the most common of these, we strongly suggest that you review and understand all of the following before the start of the NFL season.
Offensive Fumble Recovery TD.
- Scenario: Team A has the ball and a Player A1 fumbles the ball. A teammate, Player A2, recovers it and runs it in for a TD.
- Result: Player A2 is awarded an ‘Offensive Fumble Recovery TD’ for the distance from the recovery to the end zone.
Kickoff/Punt Return TD Following a Fumble.
- Scenario: Team A kicks/punts the ball to Team B. Player B1 fields the kick and subsequently fumbles the ball. A teammate, Player B2, recovers the fumble and continues to run for the TD.
- Result: This is just a variation on the ‘Offensive Fumble Recovery TD’ above. The teammate who recovered the ball is awarded an ‘Offensive Fumble Recovery TD’ for the distance from the recovery to the end zone. He is not awarded a Kick or Punt Return TD.
Defensive Fumble Recovery TD.
- Scenario: Team A has the ball and fumbles it. Player B1 on Team B recovers it and runs it in for a TD.
- Result: Team B and the Player B1 are awarded a ‘Defensive Fumble Recovery TD’ for the distance from the recovery to the end zone.
Offensive Fumble Recovery TD Following A Turnover.
- Scenario: Team A has the ball and passes or rushes with it.
- In a pass scenario, Team A throws an interception to Player B1 on Team B. Player B1 subsequently fumbles the ball. The recovery is made by Player A2 on Team A who runs it in for a TD.
- In a rush scenario, Player A1 on Team A fumbles the ball to Player B1 on Team B. Player B1 subsequently fumbles the ball and the resulting recovery is made by a Player A2 on Team A who runs it in for a TD.>
- Result: Player A2 is awarded an ‘Offensive Fumble Recovery TD’ from the distance from the recovery to the end zone. This is not considered a Defensive Team TD because the Team A defense was not on the field.
Defensive Fumble Recovery TD Following A Turnover.
- Scenario: Team A has the ball and passes or rushes with it.
- In a pass scenario, Team A throws an interception to Player B1 on Team B. Player B1 subsequently fumbles the ball. The recovery is made by Player B2 on Team B who runs it in for a TD.
- In a rush scenario, Player A1 on Team A fumbles the ball to Player B1 on Team B. Player B1 subsequently fumbles the ball and the resulting recovery is made by a Player B2 on Team B who runs it in for a TD.
- Result: Player B2 is awarded an ‘Defensive Fumble Recovery TD’ from the distance from the recovery to the end zone.
Rushing/Receiving Lateral Resulting In A TD.
- Scenario: Team A has the ball and Player A1 rushes/receives-a-pass first and then laterals to a Player A2. Player A2 then rushes in for a TD.
- Result: Player A1 is awarded one rush/reception and the rushing/receiving yardage for the run/reception from scrimmage through the lateral. Player A2 is awarded zero rushes/receptions and rushing/receiving yardage from the point of the lateral to the end zone. Player A2 is also awarded a Rushing/Receiving TD in the amount of the total yardage of the play.
Kickoff/Punt Return Lateral Resulting In A TD.
- Scenario: Team A is receiving a kickoff/punt and upon catching the ball, Player A1 returns it for a few yards before he laterals to a Player A2. Player A2 then rushes in for a TD.
- Result: Player A1 is awarded one kickoff/punt return along with the kickoff/punt return yardage from the point in which he caught the ball to the point in which he lateralled to his teammate. Player A2 is awarded zero returns and kickoff/punt return yardage from the point of the lateral to the end zone. Player A2 is also awarded a Kickoff/Punt Return TD in the amount of the total yardage of the play.
Rushing/Receiving Multiple-Lateral Resulting In A TD.
- Scenario: Team A has the ball and Player A1 rushes/receives-a-pass first and then laterals to a Player A2. Player A2 rushes before he laterals to Player A3 (this could continue to Player A4, A5, etc.) who rushes in for a TD.
- Result: Player A1 is awarded one rush/reception and the rushing/receiving yardage for the run/reception from scrimmage through the lateral. Player A2 is awarded zero rushes/receptions and rushing/receiving yardage from the point of getting his lateral from Player A1 to the point where he laterals the ball to Player A3. Player A3 is awarded zero rushes/receptions and rushing/receiving yardage from the point of getting his lateral from Player A2 to the end zone. Player A3 is also awarded a Rushing/Receiving TD in the amount of the total yardage of the play.
Non-Scoring Laterals.
- Scenario: Team A has the ball and Player A1 rushes/receives-a-pass first and then laterals to a Player A2. Player A2 rushes before he laterals to Player A3 (this could continue to Player A4, A5, etc).
- Result: Player A1 is awarded one rush/reception and the rushing/receiving yardage for the run/reception from scrimmage through the lateral. Player A2 is awarded zero rushes/receptions and rushing/receiving yardage from the point of getting his lateral from Player A1 to the point where he laterals the ball to Player A3. Player A3 is awarded zero rushes/receptions and rushing/receiving yardage from the point of getting his lateral from Player A2 to the point at which he laterals to another player or is tackled.
Fake or Broken Play Resulting In A TD.
- Scenario: Team A scores a Rushing (or Passing) TD as the result of a fake or broken play.
- Result: Regardless of whether this play started out offensively or as a Special Teams play (i.e., a punt or FG formation), the NFL, and myfantasyleague.com by extension, recognize this as a Rushing (or Passing TD) awarded to the team offense and the players involved for the distance from the line of scrimmage to the end zone.
Fake or Broken PAT
- Scenario: Team A lines up for an extra point try, but the kick never occurs. This includes a bad snap, a bad hold, or any other reason why the kick was never actually attempted.
- Result: If the play results in a score, it's defined as a regular 2-point pass/rush conversion as if Team A had lined up for a 2-point conversion from the start. However, if the play fails it is recorded as a failed 2-point conversion; a failed 2-pt pass if a player on Team A clearly throws the ball to a receiver or a failed 2-pt rush if a player on Team A attempts to run into the end zone or simply gets tackled.
Missed FG Return TD.
- Scenario: Team A kicks a FG that comes up short. A player on Team B catches the missed FG and returns it the entire length of the field for a TD.
- Result: The player on Team B is awarded a 'Missed Field Goal Return TD'. Note that this is considered to be miscellaneous yardage, so there isn't any return yardage associated with the play.
QB Pass-to-Himself TD.
- Scenario: A QB throws a pass that gets deflected back to him. After catching his own pass, he subsequently runs for a TD.
- Result: The QB receives one TD completion and one TD reception. In addition, he receives both passing and receiving yardage each equal to the distance of the play.
A Score Against A Non-Existent Defense.
- Scenario: Team A scores even though Team B thinks the play, quarter, half, or game has ended and it’s defense is not on the field.
- Result: The score for Team A counts as it normally would have had Team B’s defense been playing.
Official Scoring Changes.
- Scenario: Team A is awarded TD or other score even though they did get the ball past the goal line.
- Result: The score for Team A stands as long as the NFL officially counts it. There is NO site on the Internet that offers Official scoring changes. The closest-to-official place to look is the NFL.com GameBooks (but even these have occasional errors). No other NFL.com page or any other page on the Internet should be considered official.
Multi-Position Players.
- Scenario: Player A is listed on a NFL team's official web site roster as playing at two positions. How are his stats broken down for each position?
- Result: Since fantasy point awards are based on stats as opposed to positions, the only potential for confusion is whether or not to let dual-position players be switched from week to week or locked in to a single position. This is a league-specific decision. In cases where one of the dual positions includes a team position (i.e., Team QB), myfantasyleague.com will award the stats to that player based on where he lined up for the play.
Muffed Punt.
- Scenario: Player A is part of a return team and while receiving a punt, he lets the ball make contact with him before losing control.
- Result: Regardless of whether the player actively touches the ball or the ball touches the player, when the player loses control, Player A is charged with a muffed punt, which translates in the statistics to a fumble. At this point, the ball remains live allowing either team (return or kicking) to make a recovery. If Player B from the kicking team makes the recovery, then Player A is also charged for a 'fumble lost' and Player B is awarded a 'fumble recovery'. Note that the kicking team cannot advance the ball beyond the spot of the recovery.
Unfinished Game.
- Scenario: A NFL game is postponed (whether or not it started at the scheduled date & time) or rescheduled.
- Result: The end result of this unique situation will be addressed on a per-instance basis. We will follow the NFL's lead as to how we proceed.
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| 5. | How does the system handle scores if a kicker fakes a play?
Answer: The NFL does not have separate statistical categories for fake punts and kicks, so MyFantasyLeague.com does not, either. Instead, a fake play is scored as a regular rushing or passing play, just as it appears in a typical box score.
If you want to award your kicker or punter position for these types of plays, be sure that your league scoring rules are set up to include things like rushing and passing TDs, rushing and passing yards, etc. for kickers and punters, if appropriate for your league.
If you want to award your Special Teams or Team Defense position for these types of plays, there isn't any automatic way to do this. Instead, you would have to use the "For Commissioners > Setup > Player Score Adjuster" to add the points to the Team Defense position if/when this type of situation occurs.
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| 6. | A team blocked a field goal (or a punt) and returned it for a TD. Why are they not getting credit for the touchdown?
Answer: In order to receive points for blocked field goal (or punts) returned for touchdowns, you will need to have the following scoring rules defined for your "Defense".
To make sure that you receive these points you will have to have the: "Number of Blocked Field Goals TDs" defined for your league.
Note that if you have the "Number of Defensive & Special Teams Touchdowns" then this will be included with those touchdowns. It will not appear if you just have the "Number of Defensive Touchdowns" defined as that only includes Interceptions and Fumbles Returned for a Touchdown.
You would also want to add the "Number of Blocked Punt Goal TDs" as well to your scoring rules.
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| 7. | A Blocked Punt was recovered in the End Zone, how do I get credit for those points?
Answer: 1. To make sure that you receive these points you will have to have the: "Number of Blocked Punt TDs" rule defined for your league.
Note that if you have the "Number of Defensive & Special Teams TDs" rule defined, then this will be included with those touchdowns. It will not appear if you just have the "Number of Defensive TDs" rule defined because that only includes Interceptions and Fumbles Returned for a Touchdown.
You would also want to add the "Number of Blocked Field Goal TDs" to your scoring rules as well.
2. If you have the "Length of Blocked Punt TD" rule defined then you will want to make sure that you have the ranges defined from 0 to 110 yards as a recovery in the end zone is a 0 yard touchdown.
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| 8. | A player returned a punt (or kickoff) for a touchdown. How do I set up my league scoring system so he is awarded these points?
Answer: If you wish to receive points for the individual players returning punts or kickoffs for touchdowns then the following rules need to be added to your current scoring rules for offensive players:
- "Number of Punt Return TD" or "Length of Punt Return TD"
- "Number of Kick Return TD" or "Length of Kick Return TD"
NOTE: if you use the Length of Category you will need to include ranges from 0 yards to 110 yards to include all possible options.
Then the individual offensive players will receive proper credit for these returns.
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| 9. | In week 13 o the 2010 NFL season, Robert Meachem scored on a Fumble Recovery TD after an Interception - how was that scored?
Answer: In the 2010 NFL season, at the end of the first half of the week 13 game between the Redskins and Saints, Kareem Moore of the Redskins intercepted a pass from Drew Brees of the Saints. During the interception return, Robert Meachem of the Saints stripped the ball from Moore, and ran it in for a TD.
As mentioned in our Strange Plays FAQ, we've always scored this type of play as a 43 yard "Offensive Fumble Recovery TD" for Robert Meachem (see the "Offensive Fumble Recovery TD Following A Turnover." section). If your league wants Meachem to receive the points for this touchdown, then you'll need to make sure the "Offensive Fumble Recovery TD" rule is defined in your scoring rules for the WR position.
If your league wants to score this play differently than how it shows up in the stats, then your commissioner would need to use the "For Commissioners > Adjust Scores and Standings > Player Score Adjuster" screen to add or subtract points to Meachem or the Saints Defense as needed.
Note: This play is NOT scored as a Defensive Fumble Recovery TD for the Saints Team Defense position, since their defensive unit was not on the field during that play.
One common "urban legend" we've heard about plays like this mentions "the NFL scores this as a defensive play". While that sounds like a convincing argument, unfortunately, it's not correct. The gamebook from the Saints/Redskins game most clearly indicates this, where, on page 5, it has a "Final Defensive Statistics" page. Note the statistics for Meacham's tackle, forced fumble, and fumble recovery are listed under the "Misc" heading, and not under the "Regular Defensive Plays" heading. So while the Saints, and Meacham, were in fact defending their goal at the time he stripped the ball away, the Saints offensive team unit, and not their defensive team unit, were on the field at the time of this play, and therefore, we feel that most leagues will not want to score this as a touchdown awarded to the Saints "Def" position. In short, the "Def" position is simply an invention made up by us fantasy footballers for the benefit of our hobby, and not anything that the NFL officially recognizes.
Note that for what it is worth, the last time this type of touchdown occurred was in 2003 when the Buccaneers threw an Interception, which was then fumbled and then Keenan McCardell recovered it and ran it in for a TD. So this type of play is very rare (it's only happened twice in the last 10+ years), but it was scored the same way the last time it happened.
For a more detailed discussion of special plays like this, please see our Statistics Lifecycle FAQ, specifically the "A Special Note About 'Miscellaneous' Plays" section, which goes into detail on this general topic, and the responsibility that you and your league-mates have in deciding how plays like this are scored before they actually come up in a game situation.
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